Stupid is as Mrs. God is afraid to ask questions.
To these people NO MARRIAGE IS VALID UNLESS YOU DO IT THEIR WAY… whatever that is…AND FOLLOW THEIR CHECKLIST OF WHETHER THERE WAS LUST IN THE “MARITAL ACT.”
GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK.
Consider the source. The conversation below today made me laugh at the ridiculous nature of it.
Not one of them have asked a serious expert. And they are the serious experts.
Consider the source of the stupidity. Maybe they will “feel even dumber when they have to call or ask a real expert.”
I have to go to lunch now, so I will be like you and call a snack house. I am afraid to go to lunch.
Nah, I don’t think so.
Consider the source of the stupidity.
- Here’s a weird one: If a couple in good standing gets married in the Church but never intends to consummate their marriage, are they truly married? I know a sweet old and feeble couple who got married (in their late 80’s) that it’s pretty clear if you know them that they couldn’t possibly have sex but just wondering if they are licitly married.Posted on Jun 2nd, 2013 at 7:55 PM by Anonymous
- Well, it’s not necessarily un-annulable (I don’t think that’s a word), but it’s licit. They can’t really be planning to have kids either, but that doesn’t bar them, at that age, from being licitly married. But there’s nothing wrong with a kind of Josephite marriage.Posted on Jun 2nd, 2013 at 10:49 PM by Anna
- I would think it matters if they aren’t planning to consummate because they BOTH can’t (b/c of feebleness) or vs. because one of them can’t vs. because one of them doesn’t want to. If that makes sense?Posted on Jun 3rd, 2013 at 1:40 PM by unknown
- If they can’t, it’s not a real marriage. It’s fascinating to realize how much the actual sex has to do with the sacrament. And it actually falls to the male, male impotence makes a marriage null and void.Posted on Jun 3rd, 2013 at 5:26 PM by unknown
- Male infertility makes a marriage null and void? Are you sure about that? Can you cite a source for that? Thanks. It makes it sound as if fertility is paramount to consummation/sexual relations between spouses…but what if a husband or wife is infertile through no fault of their own and they do not withhold that information from the other spouse prior to marriage? Or if they plan to adopt because of infertility?Posted on Jun 3rd, 2013 at 6:05 PM by Doubtful
- It’s not infertility that makes it null and void, it’s impotence (the inability to consummate the marriage) that is the issue.Posted on Jun 3rd, 2013 at 7:12 PM by Claire S
- Thanks for the clarification. I was mixing up the two. I did come across a reference to impotence in canon law. I wonder if such a couple could enter into a Josephite marriage after seeking spiritual counsel?Posted on Jun 4th, 2013 at 7:33 AM by Doubtful
- NO one here has asked a priest? Or the head of the Marriage Tribunals at the US CCB? Gee….. What clarification? Are you all experts on the questions that you are asking? So what you are saying is this: unless you are having relations correctly every single hour up until midnight every night in the missionary position with the wifey and not wearing what you all call “lustful clothing” . you are not married correctly? Why all this self doubt and insecurity about correctness? Why all the worry whether God loves you or doesn’t love you and have it tied to 10 kids or just producing one kid or the inability to have kids at all? Go read the Catechism on Marriage instead of asking about it in here. Or why aren’t any priests answering in here? I am going to tell it like it is. Every priest is turned off by most of you all because you challenge his priestly Fatherhood because he is not producing a kid for the kingdom! Not only that but you talk and gossip behind his back, then deny it. There is a group of us calling your better than you bluff. We are done.
Posted on Jun 4th, 2013 at 11:25 AM by Calling your bluff about not taking authority from the Church. **Posted on Jun 4th, 2013 at 12:10 PM by unknown